Ron Paul Is Insane

You're an idiot.

I'm going to guess that was Pakosz

My daddy would never do this,or say this, this is bull-crap!!!!
Just like me not being related to Ron Paul =O)

There is a number of issues I completely disagree with you about. First is how you spoke of the FairTax. With the FairTax there will be a 23% embedded retail tax. This may seem like a lot but considering the fact that you won't have to pay the unconstitutional income tax there is really no difference except for the fact that you are paying taxes when and how you want instead of the govt. stealing your money. You also get a prebate that will cover costs up to poverty level so it won't affect the poor and why do you think it is ok to punish success? You believe in punishing hard work. Why should the rich be punished? Another thing is abortion. What gives anyone the right to get pregnant and then take their own baby's life? If someone shoots a women carrying a baby that person would be charged for the death of two people. What is the difference when a women kills the baby she is carrying? You put Ron Paul down for not caring about kids. If you want the health care to go down the drain then yes Universal Healthcare is a good thing. If you want an example look at Canada. The waiting list could be up to 3 months for an injury. The only way to get a personal doctor is if your name is picked in a lottery. Govt. will trash healthcare like it does everything else it gets involved with.

You're wrong about everything, plain and simple. Have a nice day though.

What is wrong with what i said? I don't see one thing wrong and i want you to justify your comments.

Why do you think it is ok to punish success? You believe in punishing hard work. Why should the rich be punished?

I don't believe in punishing hard work, if anything I'd like to reward the people holding two jobs compared to the CEO of some giant corporation that raises his salary cutting costs by laying off all the employees and moving their plants to India.

What gives anyone the right to get pregnant and then take their own baby's life?

What gives you the right to know if a woman is pregnant or not? Since these things aren't registered, a woman can easily terminate a baby early in development and you would never know it happened. How will you prove it, by testing every woman for pregnancy once every two weeks? Abortion isn't an issue of killing babies, it's an issue of privacy for a woman and her own body.

If you want the health care to go down the drain then yes Universal Healthcare is a good thing.

Wrong. Every other western country with universal health care can cover 100% of their citizens and still spend less than the United States per person. While it may be nice that you are covered and don't have to worry about this, millions of people in this country are not covered. No matter what circumstance you can think of, nobody deserves to die because of how much money they have, and whether or not they can afford insurance or obtain a job that provides healthcare.

That CEO didn't just become a CEO. That CEO had to work hard to get were he/she is and if taxes on the corporation weren't as high as they are that CEO wouldn't have to cut costs. Imagine all the corporations that would stay in America if they weren't taxed as high. Imagine all the jobs it would create.
Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights. No one has the right to kill. It is not the baby's fault that it is in the women so why should it be punished? The mother knew pregnancy was a possibility when she decided to have sex. I know people make mistakes but killing an innocent baby is not the answer. There are so many other choices out there.
If we have Universal Healthcare taxes will be out of the roof. I understand more than you know about not having healthcare. It is hard but it should not be forced upon others to buy healthcare for people who cannot afford it. It is a proven fact that if people have more money they will donate more money. That is what is great about Americans. We don't need the govt. forcing us to pay outrageous taxes.

I can guarantee you taxes aren't the reason the CEO is cutting costs. Several companies have had tax free agreements with the areas they produced in, only to still send those same jobs off to Mexico when they felt like paying their employees less. The CEO is already getting a salary over 200 times that of the lowest employee, he could easily save hundreds of jobs by accepting a lower amount. I mean, that would be for the good of the people and the country, right! I'm sure if Ron Paul were a CEO, he'd take a reasonable amount and pass it onto us.

If you agree that a fetus is a living person, then maybe we should name the fetus as soon as it is conceived. I mean, every living person deserves a name, so why not give it one? What about a morning after pill, do you consider that killing a baby? How can you even be sure that it worked?

As for the healthcare, taxes will be higher, but you don't have to spend money on premiums, or going bankrupt if you get cancer and your insurance company finds a minor reason not to support the bill. Nobody goes bankrupt in countries with universal health care, but it's one of the leading causes here. Besides, giving all your money to help another is a Christian ideal, no matter how the person who needs help ended up that way.

I don't quite understand your point on the donating money. While it may be logically true that someone with a billion dollars might donate a larger amount than someone on a $30k salary, the billion dollar guy won't be giving away as high of a percentage as he earns. Slightly poor people aren't tight with their money, they might realize donated money was the reason they are back on their feet and would be willing to give back, even if it is a larger portion of their income. It's not like these donations matter much anyhow, people are still not able to afford their health bills, and no amount donated money is not going to fix that.

So you are saying that corporations have deals with the Federal govt. saying they don't have to pay taxes? I really doubt that. What is really hard to believe is that because of the CEO's salary they have to cut costs. Donating money for healthcare is what I was talking about. I believe enough people would donate money without the govt. forcing them to do it and by the way I am an Atheist.

http://www.ctj.org/html/corp0402.htm

Several corporations have had huge tax breaks and still move their jobs to India, Microsoft being a notable one as well. In fact in 1999, the corporation of Microsoft paid $0 in taxes.

If you honestly believe enough people would donate the money to cover the healthcare costs of even one long term cancer patient with no insurance, you'll find that you are severely wrong. Go ahead and look up the costs for hospital visits and the drug/therapy treatment for any cancer.

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/lung/statistics/cost.htm

In 2004, lung cancer treatments altogether cost $9.6 billion dollars. Good luck with your bakesale.

The cost of running a corporation in America is just to high. I hate that so many corporations are leaving and have left the US but i can't say I blame them. Liberals try to win over votes by pretending to be for the people and taxing corporations but guess what, when a public corporation is taxed the people are taxed!
You dumb liberals just don't understand that money someone works for and earns is that person's money. Not the government's to throw around. The govt. has no right to tell anyone how to spend their money. No matter if we agree with how they spend it or not we have no right to tell anyone what to do with THEIR money!

You honestly think the oil companies going before congress, asking for tax cuts while they make record profits are really having a hard time staying afloat?

Also, great idea about paying absolutely no taxes, since all the money belongs to the person. You know, when my house is on fire, I don't need a fire department to put out the flames, I can buy a really huge hose with all the money I saved from not paying taxes. Burglar in my house? No need for the cops, I'll just take him out myself!

The point is, the people are always going to be taxed, so there's no reason to give a giant corporation making billions a year a tax break. They aren't going to pass the savings onto you, they're putting those earnings in a swiss bank account.

I wasn't talking about no taxes what so ever I was talking about no taxes on income. I am a FairTax supporter so I believe in the 23% retail tax. Coporations are never really taxed if you get down to it. It is the people getting taxed. When the oil companies make a profit it is benefiting the people. When they get taxed heavily it harms the people. "The people" are the corporations. The only fair tax is the 23% retail tax. Individual Income, The alternative minimum tax (AMT), The Corporate and business income taxes, Capitol gains taxes, Social security taxes, Medicare taxes (along with all other payroll taxes),
The self-employment tax, Estate taxes, and Gift taxes are all wrong.

You should stop looking everything from one side and start looking from multiple viewpoints before giving these ridiculous arguments and opinions of yours.

In that case, everyone else who presents to me their one-sided opinion should look up both sides and report that instead. Why am I at fault here for something they caused? Go yell at them please. (Since it's clearly impossible that I would have thought this up myself)

"Also, great idea about paying absolutely no taxes, since all the money belongs to the person. You know, when my house is on fire, I don't need a fire department to put out the flames, I can buy a really huge hose with all the money I saved from not paying taxes. Burglar in my house? No need for the cops, I'll just take him out myself!"
so sad you Americans know nothing about your own system. Income Tax is illegal based on your constitution and DOES NOT PAY FOR ANY OF THE SERVICES YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Thats what actual LEGAL taxes like property tax, and excise tax's like tax on gas you buy to pay for road repairs and things like that ... please get yourself educated. (ps income tax goes to pay down the debt the USA has accumulated on its own to the FED for printing their money.
"The point is, the people are always going to be taxed, so there's no reason to give a giant corporation making billions a year a tax break. They aren't going to pass the savings onto you, they're putting those earnings in a swiss bank account."
no the point is people SHOULDNT be taxed based on labour , CORPORATIONS should be ,based on their income.

Your a tool, Ron Paul doesn't support the national sales tax.
"By the way, when I say cut taxes, I don't mean fiddle with the code. I mean abolish the income tax and the IRS, and replace them with nothing." -Ron Paul
I'm not even going to go into the rest of you garbage. Get your facts straight.

ron paul is just about the coolest, most chillest, most refridgerated man I know. He is literally cooler than a polar bears toenails. Calm, collected, obama, newt gingrich.
half a "hey how ya doin?"

I agree! Ron is a lunatic , a bigot , and he is not a Republican or Democrat or like any of the other parties. He needs to go to his own little world and leave us alone. I used to live in an area that was gerrymandered onto his district in an attempt to have more than the inbred who haul gators around in their cars and transient plant workers who don't know who or what he is. They added us to try to get some people with teeth to make it look like he isn't the Rep. from Redneckistan. So , how the plan working? I wrote to the Libertarian party head to ask just what they believe, I wanted to be fair and tried to be open minded. The Cracker wrote me back a snotty letter telling me he didn't have time to discuss anything and to go read Ron's book. Then they wonder why you can count Libertarian voters on your fingers and toes.

I was an Obama supporter until 2 weeks before the election when I started reading Ron Paul. I support him fully now. So far, what "Change" has Obama offered us, other than socialist policies and more debt?
Look at what the news broke today already. Obama has just proposed a three TRILLION dollar budget. On top of the $800 billion stimulus and $750 billion (failed) bailouts already put through. In fact if you read the article, he is requesting an additional $750 billion for bailouts. The billions already given to banks have done almost nothing for consumer credit, had no oversight, being squandered, etc now were going to give them more.
Plus he is going to make down payments for socialized health care. Realize people, that we are paying for all of this.
And he complained that the Bush-era policies of endless spending and "passing the bill" were going to stop. Though he seems earnest, Obama is going to be a dud, a flash in the pan. He won't live up to the expectations.

Forget socialism. What gives ANYONE the right to decide that another person makes too much money.
What gives you the right to decide that a CEO should be salary-capped? If you don't like a company's policies, salary cap them by spending your money elsewhere.
Yes, there are single mothers earning $16,000 at a company while the CEO earns $20 million. But thats the way life is. Its very sad then that people expect high-earners to then take care of them in the form of government handouts. Wake up and have some personal responsibility.
If I'm broke in 10 years, I have no one to blame but myself.
The people earning the most money in this country are the ones creating jobs, investing, moving the economy etc. They should get their taxes DECREASED for christ's sake.
What gives you the right to decide how other people should live their lives?

"The tax is flat for everyone, but should you pay the same tax rate as some guy who makes 6-7 digit figures every year? "
Fuck you, yes you should.
Those who apply themselves shouldn't be punished. I wrote the post above. Again, what gives you the right to FORCE LABOR from someone else? Because you have less? So then someone with more is obligated to help you?
This is the fundamental problem with socialism. We do NOT have a moral obligation to anyone else. We may FREELY CHOOSE to give the fruits of our labor to another person, but we should never be forced to.

Ron Paul does not support FairTax. You'd know this if you understood the slightest thing about him and the Constitution.
"but I'm pretty sure every candidate supports free speech, so that's not much to say."
...Really? Have you been living under a rock? Ever hear of George Bush's "Free Speech Zones" ...that's not free speech. Newt Gingrich and Hillary Clinton have both said they want to put limits on Free Speech.
"Ron Paul wants to raise that number to 23%."
Where has Ron Paul EVER said he's going to raise taxes? Please, list some sources.
You can't because it's a lie. That pretty much proves what you are right there. In fact this "article" is filled with lies. You have all these things Ron Paul supposedly believes in and stuff he supposedly said, but I can't find a single source. Even searching the internet on my own.
It's clear that you've picked your own candidate, probably Obama who thinks he can spend us out of debt, and are resorting to slander tactics as a way to give him an an edge.
What's wrong with you? You don't have enough government in your life already? You don't support the Constitution? Would you rather live in a facist dictatorship where the state controls everything?
The UN is positioning itself as a global government and forcing its will on to everyone. Obama is a UN puppet who means to take us deeper into the organization, doing so will require us to give up more freedoms including the right to bare arms.
You think us forcing our will on others is a good idea? You think these no win wars are good for this country? Look at us, we're taxed out the ass, hated by much of the world, the dollar dying a slow painful death and it's going to take all of us with it. The one man who spoke common sense, the only man who spoke about the issues most the time, and had a good solid plan for getting us out of this and you're flat out lying and rejecting him over stupid party politics.
You are a truly sick and disturbed individual.

I really wish Ron Paul would stop posting here.

You neither understand the positions of Ron Paul or the fundamental principles of this country's founding documents. Why don't you take some time off from babbling here and elsewhere, acquire a copy of the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and Declaration of Rights, sit down and educate yourself. Your reading should be prove to be well spent and give you real insight into the beliefs of a man that are far superior to those you presently adhere to in ignorance.

have you read and understand the 10th ammendment?

Gary, you are an idiot to such a degree.
I could name 1,000 times you went wrong in the post
One thing "birth citizenship" it isn�t because they cannot vote, you idiot it is based on the ideals that a child shouldn�t be named on a stock exchange. I don�t think anyone likes the ideal of being marked as state cattle and being in the form of state ownership.
Question, how do you feel that your child is marked as a stock?
Also nope not because Ron doesn�t like kids, but he doesn�t like the ideals of children being seen as cooperation stocks
Unless your into the fact of stock market slaves Gary.
Do some study on the motivations behind his policy�s and stop being a lazy shit.
Here is a tip. Look up "NWO"

Gary, you are an idiot to such a degree.
I could name 1,000 times you went wrong in the post
One thing "birth citizenship" it isn�t because they cannot vote, you idiot it is based on the ideals that a child shouldn�t be named on a stock exchange. I don�t think anyone likes the ideal of being marked as state cattle and being in the form of state ownership.
Question, how do you feel that your child is marked as a stock?
Also nope not because Ron doesn�t like kids, but he doesn�t like the ideals of children being seen as cooperation stocks
Unless your into the fact of stock market slaves Gary.
Do some study on the motivations behind his policy�s and stop being a lazy shit.
Here is a tip. Look up "NWO"

I us to like Ron Paul and everything he said, but not anymore. I think he has been right for the pass ten years, and I beleieve when he says "government is too big; That is the problem." Ron Paul being a racist NO! All these quotes on the web about him saying racist things has never came out of his month. Instead it comes out of web articles from the dailypaul.com. He tax theory is crazy, and so is his hate for the FED. I do think if we had more people like him in government we might be safer from the government, and have a better economy.

Many years ago, I believe it was 1988, Ron Paul was in DC walking down a sidewalk with a female who got her purse snatched. Even though Ron jogs frequently, he could not catch the thief. His comment about was about how fast the thief was, not how black he was.
Ron Paul voted in favor of Gay marriage.
A country with 20,000 nukes doesn't need to be in NATO or the UN. In Libya, the UN can't even whip a tinpot dictator without US assistance.
I'd continue on, debunking your feeble, but extensive hatchet job but I don't think anybody cares.

Deceived as a true Sheeple of America..bah bah Gary you moron..funny how many brainwashed media watching idiots are really out there..I watch America now give up all its freedom's because of a dead mans video tape and the funny part is he has been dead for years..PLEASE dumped his body in the ocean hours after they offed some look alike ha..

Buddy, universal health care is an awful idea. I 100% agree with him there. I don't like Ron Paul, but you're generalizing on some conservative ideas, which is not fair.

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Wow, you are just... wow. I didn't think people could be quite so stupid.

This website distorts every single position held by the only presidential candidate that stands for the American people and the Constitution. If you think Ron Paul is insane just check him out on youtube and read his books. RP 2012!

You are an ass...

hey, thanks for putting up a bunch of Ron Paul quotes that make total sense and that I agree with. He's not at all crazy, but it does seem that you are.

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WOW ON THE NEWS OBAMA IS SUPPOSEDLY MAKING ANOTHER STIMULUS PACKAGE AND WILL MAKE GAS PRICES GO HIGHER NOOB! THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT JUST THAT GAS PRICES WILL GO UP! WTF?

An amusing hit-piece.
I like many of Ron Paul's ideas but disagree with quite a few. I BELIEVE in REAL DEMOCRACY, REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY is almost a full OXYMORON - morons (not you guys!)..
GIVE every PERSON the POWER of POLITICIANS to VOTE on IMPORTANT LAWS, ISSUES and THE BUDGET at COMMUNAL, DISTRICT, REGIONAL, NATIONAL and occasionally INTERNATIONAL LEVELS within a (new) FAIR, NON-LETHAL CONSTITUTION...
BUDGET VOTE:
TAX FORM, You get to choose % to each department within specific bounds (except Militarily where you can specify 0%). Weighted tree software, auto-rebalances alterations - print or email your PERSONAL TAX EXPENDITURE PROFILE - anonymously, securely..
IN OUR WORLD INDIVIDUALS DECIDE .... PITY OUR WORLD DOESN'T EXIST, only theirs...!?
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Gary (and other democrats, I presume you are a democrat..)
I FEEL YOUR PAIN! These Ron Paul supporters are SO CLOSE-MINDED!
Ron Paul Supporters, I FEEL YOUR PAIN! These democrat Obamatrons are SO CLOSE-MINDED!
CHARITY will NEVER raise ENOUGH MONEY to help EVERY(POOR)1...
UNREGULATED Business WILL ALWAYS COLLUDE as well as COMPETE...
This has proved the case in EVERY NATION... SO 'WE' NEED TO PAY TAX.
A (very) PROGRESSIVE income tax with a LOW TOP RATE (20%) and obviously, MUCH LOWER BOTTOM RATE - DOWN TO -ve TAX-CREDITS - is SO UNFAIR but it BATTLES THE UNFAIRNESS OF LIFE (the life you are BORN INTO).. It is also fairer than
To be fair, the Fire Service could be privatized, even the Police Service (though not under the current constitution).. BUT WHY? Obviously a privatized police service is such a DREADFUL idea IT HURTS - (but yes, you can keep your PERSONAL PROTECTION DEVICE). FOR PROFIT (private) fire PROTECTION companies may be tempted to COMMIT ARSON.. FOR PROFIT POLICE (which we have) would become more than TAX-COLLECTORS and TOKEN detectives.. They'd become THE MAFIA (who they currently work for anyhow if your the cynical type!)
So we TURN TO HEALTH - SAME ARGUMENT - It's happening, DRUGS that MAKE YOUR ILL, DRUGS in FOOD that MAKE YOU ILL... etc.
I don't care HOW I PAY TAXES but I WILL ONLY PAY THEM if I CAN DECIDE how MY TAX CONTRIBUTION IS SPENT..!!
You are ALL 'INSANE/CRAZY' IMArrogantO - BE 'REALLY DEMOCRATIC' - REALLY!
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Ron Paul really got to me when he referred to food stamps, unemployment. etc. as entitlement programs. I don't see him cutting the entitlements in life time healthcare and salaries the US Representatives and Senators get after serving one term. He thinks if Americans want insurance they can buy it, yet he offers no solutions to the Lobbying Groups that keep our healthcare and prescriion the highest in the world. He neglects that fact that the unemployment rate is really 30%. He has no suggestion that the theft of the Social Security fund should be returned to the Social Security Admin. The Federal employees have a security locked fund. Why should Americans pay much higher sales taxes as opposed to income tax, when the looting of America was not done by their by by the Federal Government???? Even before our current depression jobs were shipped to India and the Philippines. Why not enact legislation to make that illegal again? Bring those jobs back to the US where they belong. I once would have voted for him but as soon as he referred to people relying upon entitlement programs as inferior to the rest of Americans, now that his hidden agenda is leaking out. Look at all the people who have used up unemployment and the ones working two part time jobs barely able to eke by. He should be ashamed of himself like some of the PAID politicians leeching money from the Feds.and starving the poor.

I'd support a higher sales tax, you know why? Because i'd have a hell of a lot more money in my pocket, YOU KNOW WHY? Because Ron Paul wants to get rid of the income tax, you know how? By ending all of the wasteful spending that's going on with these wars, by ending aid to countries that we don't need to be helping, and by slashing five different USELESS departments of government, our government would be out of debt by the end of his first term. Ron Paul 2012.. nuff said

At least 75 percent of your quotes from ron paul were fully taken out of context. I don't believe any fair minded intelligent person could make this mistake on accident so I am forced to conclude that you have the aim of misrepresenting his views amd stances. Therefore, you don't deserve my time in adressing any of your straw man arguments that show full ignorance of Paul's platforms. At least try to honestly understand the guy, amd truthfully represent his stance, and then address why you disagree, I will probably share some of your criticisms. However, you instead misrepresent Paul's stance and effectually argue against stances he does not hold, and so what you are deconstructing are perverse positions that the man does not hold. Honesty and integrity in discourse are almost completely absent from your arguments.

k and obama did?

Ron Paul believes in having a Capitalistic government instead of a socialistic government. I agree with Paul, Health insurance isn't a right unless you can and are willing to pay for it. If health insurance is a right so would be Life insurance, insurance on your automobile and maybe your dog. If you can't or don't want pay for it let the citizens pay for it through taxation. Ron Paul is for protecting our country and letting everyone else protect their country. We, the tax payers, are spending billions of dollars fighting in other countries while our country is being taken over by our neighbors in the south.

HG, I will listen. Please tell me why I should agree with Ron Paul's philosophies. I am against everything he stands for except foreign policy, but if anything you say "enlightens" me, I would gladly support him because honestly, his world sounds more appealing but as a realist, I see his ideals as incredibly destructive within our current context. But since you seem like the only Paul supporter worth listening to amongst these other commentors, explain to me how a free market and little to no gov will improve anything in the United States without affecting basic human rights and individual freedoms.

�I think the government should just be out of it. I think it should be done by the church or private contract, and we shouldn�t have this argument,� he said recently. �Who�s married and who isn�t married. I have my standards but I shouldn�t have to impose my standards on others. Other people have their standards and they have no right to impose their marriage standards on me.�
He is not for for making same sex marriage illegal. He may believe personally that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he believes that people have the RIGHT to define marriage themselves. He's socially liberal, fiscally conservative, is honest, acts within the Constitution, and respects the rights of people in this country. And honestly, the rich that would get taxed less would only be the extremely rich, who already give a lot of money to the government anyway. And hey maybe lower taxes would be incentive for citizens to go to college, work hard, and also get rich. We need higher taxes and a lot less spending if we want to get out of this depression. He doesn't want to fund the UN because right now America shouldn't be worrying about other countries' problems when we have our own to solve.
Insanity may just be another form of genius.

E., less government means less restrictions on people, giving them more freedoms. He's not conservative, he's libertarian.

HAHAHA Go and Fuck yourself!!!

I'm sorry but you're taking few and parts of Ron Paul's arguments and shitting on their context. Ron Paul advocates consistent freedom: international, personal, and economical freedom. He's the only candidate in recent years (by recent I mean the last 100 years) who has had consistent views and has not changed them to appease to the public. Fuck your ignorance, man. How do you like Obama's blatant lies about bringing the troops home? Or signing a bill into law that permits indefinite detainment of persons in Gitmo, even after acquittal? Yeah, THAT'S freedom and consistency alright. Take your ignorant theories to a Mitt Romney convention where people enjoy the face of tyranny and evil.

Reading this on the eve of 2012 presidential election, and couldn't have said it better than you did.
It's frightening that there are so many useful idiots who support this cult leader - he clearly doesn't believe in the 21st century, nor does he understand it. The fact that he is even considered a serious candidate for presidency spells the end of intellectual debate in the United States.
He might have made a good politician in the 19th century though, since his policies seem to be well-adapted to that era. Of course, that's assuming he wouldn't be even more ass-backward if he was born in the 19th century and start arguing for the 17th-century type of policies, policies like, oh I don't know... championing the divine right of kings, or letting the states do whatever the hell they want with slavery.
Down with Ron Paul.

Wow..
How does a man who believes in freedom suddenly contradicts his values and becomes, A man with so many laws?
Ron Paul- liberty, constitution , peace.
He believes in doing whatever the heck you want to with your life, as long as it does not harm or take away someone elses.

Hi Gary,
My name is Raz and I support Ron Paul in the presidential election. After reading your blog, I came across some info. about him that I didn't know. So I ask for references. Where are your claims coming from? Please email me at smrazmohammed@gmail.com
Thanks.

um he definitely supports gay marriage

The Paul campaign has become nothing but a cult of personality other than policy. I'm fortunate not to have been raised in the united states after reading the complete ignorance written on this board. Do you Paul supporters really believe you are going to get people on your side being condescending and crass? It really proves that the type of candidate is judged by the supporters to the cause.

And Dr. Steve Pieczenik is a nut too... Why don't you just right click and download Obama's birth certificate... Or look at the total impossibility of OK City bomb, 911 bomb and more... I'm awake and you're not. Wake up... The government is against you... They've faked global warming... Just look at the US Geological surveys... It's about Eugenics... Trace Rothschild, Kissinger, Rockefeller, and more... Wake up...

Have you even listened to Ron Paul, or read any of his literature, and if so are you stupid? Because if you did, you have the lowest level of comprehension that I have ever seen.

Interesting I looked up crazy quotes by Ron Paul I got your site. After reading his ideas I can say I actually now agree with mist everything he says. Thanks for clearly that up for me. You obviously have a left leaning agenda and you have now convinced me to look at Ron Paul more closely as my choice for 2012

If a majority of the people vote for Ron Paul and he wins Iowa it means Iowa is meaningless. I've been told this repeatedly in the news. So I guess the Govenor of Iowa, the Congressmen, their sherrifs, and whoever else was elected by a majority of the people should step down?? Maybe the GOP should just "change the rules" so the majority doesn't count for anything.

Excellent article makes many of Paul's positions clear to understand. What will he do with the National Parks? Sell them off to the largest corporations who will turn them into MarineWorlds and Large Zoos?

keep spreading those lies friend.
just about everything you said, is completely inaccurate.
not going to try to reason with a person of your character.
RonPaul2012

Ron paul is a nutcase. I do support some of his policies, and i dont think hes a "spawn of satan", but the guy is a racist lunatic who hates people who dont agree with everything he thinks, which is basically communism. He says do what u want and be free, which is good, but then he says as long as you agree with everything i say or do. Bad choice for prez. And his supporters just wont shut the hell up. They know nothing of this guy, on comments i see people saying "hes basicaly a democrat, so vote for him" and "ron paul or obama 2012" and " without him as president, this country will eventually implode"

This was some pretty crazy reading. Your wrong in most of your facts. I guess your site doesn't employ a fact checker. Your facts (which most are wrong)lead to unrelated conclusions.
Example: Prayer in School, you say church and state. OK, he still holds up. Paul doesn't support forced, christian/anything else, prayer in school but the idea "if you want to pray (to anyone or anything) you should be allowed."
I understand you like the 'status quo' and a 'strong government' telling you exactly how to feel/what to do/provide for you, but this is America. Make it on your own, get to do whatever you want(not crimes). That silly prayer argument is argued wrong all the time by non Paul supports. The main idea is linked to his message "freedom".

I can't believe people are voting for this guy. Is his middle name Ross Parot

hahaha ron paul is such a joke. anyone who votes for him should leave the united states, im positive he hates america.

Wow, the utter ignorance from the Paul haters is astounding. He's a communist, a Democrat? He hates America? Does no one remember the pre-9/11 GOP, before the neocons hijacked the party? Paul supports small, fiscally responsible, constitutional government and a non-interventionist foreign policy, like Republicans used to. The American Journal of Political Science ranked him the most conservative member of Congress between 1937 and 2002. That's because conservatives used to stand for what he believes in. Exploding the national debt, trampling on civil liberties, and blowing up the world are not traditional Republican views. If he seems out of step with the party, it's only because the party has strayed so far from its roots.
Paul's platform is simple to understand: If it's in the Constitution, he supports it. If it's not, he doesn't. If that makes him a nut, then I guess the Founding Fathers were nuts, too.
It's not like our current monetary and foreign policy are working. I can only assume that people are terrified to break from the stats quo and try something different, even if it's clear our current approach is leading us to ruin. Ron Paul confronts the true insanity that is our current way of doing things, and rather than listen to what he has to say, people just dismiss him as a nut, which is a travesty. Unfortunately, he doesn't talk in simplistic soundbites, and he doesn't shift with every political wind and tell people what they want to hear, which is apparently the only way to get through to most voters today. He doesn't offer platitudes and easy answers; he makes you stop and think. That's obviously asking too much of typical knee-jerk American voters today, who want an easy fix for every problem so they can go back to watching American Idol.
Oh, and for all the fools who think Ron Paul believes people should die if they can't afford medical insurance -- do you realize the man is a physician? In his own practice, if people couldn't afford to pay him, they'd bring him food. And he refused to take any pay from Medicare and Medicaid patients, because he didn't want to accept the federal funds. Instead, he saw them for FREE. His whole point is that people shouldn't NEED insurance to be able to afford to see a doctor -- office visits should be cheap enough that you can pay out of pocket, with insurance reserved for catastrophic events. That's what insurance is *supposed* to be for. Imagine if you had to use your Geico card at Jiffy Lube because an oil change was too expensive to pay for out of pocket. That's what our health insurance system does to us, and it's insane. We needed reform that drove down prices and injected competition into the system. Health care is so expensive because of all the government red tape -- we needed less of that, not more. All we did was prop up the current broken system and force everyone to participate in it.
This country has a chance to set things right with a person who understands the principles this country was founded on. If we're too stupid to see that, then we deserve whatever we get.

Lol, this is so poorly written, you're putting words in the mans mouth that he has never said. Go learn to write an article without imaginative paraphrasing

Ron Paul is a lunatic.

I had no plan toward necro'ing a 5 year old post until I noticed how spiteful (and incorrect) you are.
Ron Paul wants to get rid of ALL taxes except the sales tax. When you buy a hamburger at McDonalds in Chicago right now, the tax isn't 9%. You're forgetting the taxes on the cattle ranch, the slaughterhouse, the transportation companies, McDonalds itself and every other tax that's being added to that burger. The average food tax for a grocery store, for instance, is already in the high 20% range. Gasoline is over a third. Ron Paul's sales tax actually lowers taxes on everyone, and makes up the difference by firing the grand majority of the IRS. (For gas: http://www.commonsensejunction.com/notes/gas-tax-rate.html)
And your "He's a racist" comments? Nice job taking every one of the statements completely out of context and portraying your opinion as fact. Let's tackle these, shall we?
If you thought George Bush hated black people, you've never heard what Ron Paul has to say about them.
"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
He's from D.C. The crime rates from D.C. are HIGHLY slated toward, you guess it, black males. The entire COUNTRY'S crime is slated toward black and Hispanic males. If it were mostly Asians committing crimes, those same points would have had "Asian" instead of black. That's not racism, it's a generalization based on statistical evidence. Racism is: "The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...
Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief."
Neither of those describe a generalization being made. He did not say "All black males commit crimes" or "I hate blacks" or anything else of the sort. Shame on you for twisting his words to your agenda.
As for the anti-Jew comment:
Don't worry though, Ron Paul hates all minorities equally, including Jews.
"by far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government."
You've again taken it out of context. He's speaking about how we spend more money on wars for Israel (such as the one in Iraq that you claim everyone hates, while it's only about 2/3 of the country than disagrees with it, sorry) than for anyone else by far. He's saying it's bad lobbying economically and that it hurts our international presence. Whether you agree with him or not, he did not say anything like "JEWS ARE EVIL!"
You gave no evidence for him wishing to quit NATO. The sentence you laid down:
"Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations."
Which is pretty explicit... we shouldn't allow anything like the Great War (World War I and II are seen as ONE war by most of the rest of the world, hence his use of the singular "war") again. Someone gets assassinated, we shouldn't have to be "oh, our allies are going to war, so we will also go to war for them, losing millions of lives". It's their war. Them being our allies should not be the deciding factor. Especially from an UNELECTED body of power.
Assuming, however, that he wishes for us to quit NATO, have you looked at how little NATO does well? They're really good at making us spend money. However, they're not really good at getting anything done. The Balkans? Libya? Iraq? All NATO. Should we potentially look for a world governing body? Possibly. Is NATO the group to do it? Nope.
As for the Europe not "jumping in" to the war? Perhaps you missed the part where France and Germany were stealing from the Iraqi relief funds that had been set up? Oh right, of course you didn't. After that came out, they gave their "full" support.
Sicko was pretty well riddled with trash. Just like everything Michael Moore makes. There's a reason he's no longer considered a documentary creator, but instead a mockumentary creator. The United States has had healthcare for every citizen for quite a long time. There's not health INSURANCE for every citizen, but every life-threatening illness? Can be dealt with. There are people who don't know HOW to find the help they need, and that's the issue that health insurance could "solve".
Like Ron Paul says, it's something that would be fantastic for everyone. It's not a "God-given Right". Try reading the Constitution through and see what it says about health care.

A flat sales tax, is a fair tax. People who spend excessively, will pay more taxes. People who dont have the funds to buy all of the toys, will be spared paying the taxes the rich guys have to pay. The alternative, finds the wealthy taking advantage of tax breaks and paying less taxes than the poor and having more money to waste on shit. Most of the racist stuff you put up here, is proven to be fraudulant, has been taken out of context, or is just wrong. Ron Paul supports repealing current drug laws, that are unfarely directed toward blacks. I didn't bother to read the rest of your lies. I hope nobody honestly considers any of the slander you've put up here to be anything resembling truth. Get a life, and think about the future of our country for a chance.

A vote for Ron Paul is without a doubt a wasted vote. He could never beat Obama, and in fact would not carry a single state. His views are completely irresponsible, and his approach to Iran extremely dangerous for every American and the entire world. Ron Paul, who already seems somewhat senile is already 76, and would be 85 at the end of his second term if he ever got to that place. Any vote for Paul is a vote for every fool like him, such as Nadar, who ever ran, and will only help insure the reelection of Obama. Only in America could a fool like Ron Paul garner a single vote of support.

I have an idea. You come to my office. I go in the back room and print $100,000 of dollar bills. Out of thin air. Because it was not there before you walked in and asked for a loan. Then I lend it to you with interest. You deposit the $100,000 money in your own bank. Now your own bank can now lend out ten times the amount you deposited. Or $1,000,000. Where did they get the extra $900,000 ? Also out of thin air. So now my original loan to you has put a total of $1,100,000 into the economy. It's called fractional banking. It's call Fake or Fiat money. Flood the economy with it and it creates inflation quickly. That's why your dollar is only worth 5% of what it was about 100 years ago. Happy now ? END THE FED

Sources for all of these claims?

he is the worst person

i hate ron paul

I'm telling on all of you guys. My daddy will be mad! I love my daddy. He is the best person on the world.
Respond if you think Ron Paul is a good daddy!
*THUMBS UP*

Dear Nothing,
You have posted a comment on January 12, 2012. I think supporters of Ron Paul are losers.
Happy Merry CHRISTMAS!

I am Ron Paul and I will ban this website very soon....

Not sure where you got your facts...
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Education.htm

you shouldn't be allowed to have a website. and dearest "ANTI Ron Paul"... just saying he sucks doesnt make him ACTUALLY suck. you should try making a point.
oh and dear Gary.. you should read this article from the ny times titled Biggest Public Firms Paid Little U.S. Tax, Study Says" http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/business/280-big-public-firms-paid-little-us-tax-study-finds.html

You forgot mention his nutty economic polices.
For example moving the USA back to the gold standard. (The US move away from the
gold standard because exacerbated the great depression. )

These are all reasons why we WANT to vote for DR. Paul!!!! The tax increase to 23%? That's a bold lie though!!!

Mmkay, I wouldn't necessarily make the bold accusation that Ron Paul is mentally ill. However, I disagree with most of his proposals.
The fair tax proposal is completely unbalanced, and ridiculous. The problem right now is that people aren't spending, this is the reason why we're in a recession, and why the depression and most recessions happened. This is why the auto companies went bankrupt, and this is how most businesses fall apart. Relying solely on the consumer is the worst idea to ever be proposed. Do any of you know why the stimulus bill went into practice? To spend. To encourage consumer spending. That's why any sort of stimulus bill is created. However, the consumers didn't answer, so it failed.
If this goes into practice, buying necessary items like motor vehicles, a house (housing market is under, by the way), or any high priced item will be avoided. People look at numbers. A $20,000 item would go up to $24, 600. Sure people would have higher incomes as a result, however the problem is people still aren't making that much money regardless. Found a cheap, nice house only at $120,000? OH, WAIT. That'll be $149,600, please. Can't afford it now? Life sucks. People are already struggling to pay off their house at the price that was only at 6% sales tax.
Let me reiterate this point: THE CONSUMERS AREN'T SPENDING. According to the National Retail Federation in 2000 that found "a national sales tax bill filed by Billy Tauzin, the Individual Tax Freedom Act, would bring a three-year decline in the economy, a four-year decline in employment and an eight-year decline in consumer spending." Now consumers right now aren't spending that much, it's predicted that they would spend even less if this goes in effect.
Let's think of gas. Gas prices are high as is and still have a sales tax, if went up to 23%, it would be utterly unaffordable.
Honestly, I do not like Ron Paul, and I find all other Republican candidates to be either ridiculous or insane. And I like Obama, unlike the rest of the nation who are so focused on being pleased right now that they can't understand that no president can get us out of this economic recession quickly, and there are many other factors affecting this economy other than the President's choices.
The chances are there will be a Republican candidate elected, and I predict the exact same thing will happen that happened to Obama. People will expect too much and get nothing, no results, and possibly the opposite of what they want. People elected a Republican for the position of governor in Michigan because they thought Democrats are the reason for everything going shitty. However, people are rallying, even rioting at the policies Governor Schneider is proposing and enacting. People don't think things through and point the blame to the person in power and everyone who follows them. Then they make blind decisions, and this is how our country falls apart in the first place.
America: The land of the free, and ignorant.

whomever wrote this page is a idiot.......plain and simple...idiot

Nice post Gary. Here it is Jan, 2012 and reading this you were pretty prophetic.
That idiot Ron Paul didn't even come close to winning in 08, which is going to be the same case in 2012.
P.S. I found your post by typing "how stupid do you have to be to support ron paul" in google.

Okay honestly, there are his bad points- keep in mind that I came here an anti-Paul person- but this site is really a bunch of bullshit. And then you call HIM "hate mongering"??
This sums up the entire site:
"Don't worry though, Ron Paul hates all minorities equally, including Jews :
'by far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government.' -Ron Paul "
Seriously? This means that he hates jews? I think this site is a troll.

shut the """" up yu money stealing crooks

Ron Paul supported the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and has said that openly gay troops should have every right to serve in the military. He believes anyone whose sexuality is a distraction should be discharged, homosexual or heterosexual, and if it is not then there is no issue.

Look guys slamming Ron Paul with Lies saying he's a Racist and blahblahblah. He doesn't hate Israel, He's stated in a Recent Interview on the News that he Supports Israel and Defends Zionism. Take it from 1 Conspiracy Theorist to the Next. He's not talking about the Zionist Illuminati who have went Rogue and are trying to take over the World. NWO all that stuff. He's referring to the Bible Zionist. Which are not the same. Zionist we know are Evil, Religious Zealots. Hitler was a Zionist...Look at how he tagged the Jews and only the jews in the Holocaust, a Triangle and 6 digits. You really can put one thing like this to another. Ron Paul is Ex-Illuminati, sure he's for Zionism, and Banishing Abortion. Haven't you listened to Dr. Ron Paul? Or are you just listening to the Brainwashing Reporters on CNN "SIN" or Fox News "666" FOX=666 yeah I'm a Conspiracy Guru I would say. But even knowing what I know...This Election is just voting for the lesser of Two Evils Metaphorically speaking of course. Ron Paul Hands down is who I trust. Everyone else wants to build a Illuminazi Wall and turn the USA into a Police State, Electric Fences, Armed Predator Drones, FEMA CAMPS, HR1540, HR645, HR3200 all things Fox News and Glenn Beck specifically never mentioned or brought up HR645. Debunk that! I believe in Predictive Programming, how come going back 30 years or more we have been indoctrined to have a RFID Chip implanted in us and all those who don't have the chip are Killed. By some Antichrist like figure. Is this in the Bible, no not specifically. So why so much brainwashing even in cartoon shows for kids. Enough is Enough. Ron Paul I trust cause he won't allow the Tyrannical Arm of the Government to Strangle our people. He will not allow the Government to Merge with Canada and Mexico. Is this the Real Reason they are teaching our Kids in school today Spanish as Mandatory Secondary Language. NAU? North American Union? Absolutely. You people better wake up, Ron Paul is not my God, He's just Earth's last hope. It's kind of a Big Deal. This Election will be the most important one we've ever had. I'm amazed how many Sheeple have been Hypnotised by Mitt Romney's Voice or Ignorance. Mitt Romney wants to Throw all the Poor people under the Bus and then give the Order to Backup and Run them over again to make sure they're Dead. American's This 2012 Election Please Vote with a Conscious! How come Ron Paul was the only one who made the link that the Berlin Wall the NeoNazi Government wants to build could be Built to Not keep Illegals out but Keep Americans in? How come when Ron Paul was asked about HR645 he said something like, yeah I know about that, they are setting the stage for Violence in this Country, No Doubt! How come other Canidates aren't concerned about our Rights or have Awareness of the Ones which are under siege right now! Political Correctness is Destroying America...He need someone in the Whitehouse with a Brain! I would like to see Ron Remove the AIPAC with the USA and Israel and the UN. AIPAC is just like Bilderberg where our Government does shady backdoor deals lobbying for Israeli Zionist! Google the New World Order and learn how this stuff all works, the Rockerfellers and Rothchilds etc, George Soros, You want to know the Truth? You can't Handle the Truth!!! The Government wants Population Control! That's right Holocaust, Plague, Nuclear Apocalpyse, Zombie Virus?, 2012 Doomsday, CERN, HAARP, they have the Technology to Wipe out 99.9% of Humanity right now. And you want to give them another 4 years to Complete their New World Order? And you want to label me as the Crazy One...ha I'm the only one that gets it. Your the Ignorant little Sheep that just Filter out the Things you want and don't want to hear cause your Scared the Reality of the Impossible. Nothing is Impossible! Cause Time in Infinite!

We* sry typo not He...:D
No, the Government and Driveby Media are trying to use Deceptive Jet-EYE mindtricks on you all. Listen they are trying to draw your Attention and Focus to Jobs, and Economy the Real issue is the Elite ones ruling the World. Like I mentioned a Severe Warning which Threatens Humanities Evolution. I'm just tired of them Degrading us, with Tons of Zionist/Illuminati Propaganda. Wakeup that is all. take heed my Warnings America. I may not be around long enough for you to hear them again. Fuck Obama, I cling to my Guns and my Religion. Thank you very much.

He is so insane if he's anything like what you stated in your article - the problem is: he ISN'T anything like you claim.
These claims are outright lies that you have no proof of.
Another thing:
Abortion isn't about the women, it's about the babies. A pregnant woman has forfeit her bodily freedoms in order to protect another's - that is not only a noble thing but a responsibility. If you're not up for it - don't screw around. Who cares whether you want the baby or not? It's coming and you better not sacrifice it to your desires because it is WRONG to do so.